Notes on Inter-gender issues
A comparative overview of
Western/'Degree'-holder vs Eastern Model of Relationships
| Western Models | Indian Models/Dharmic |
| 2 schizophrenic modes: Individualism and collectivism | Organic unity: Karmic Interdependency with Total fulfillment of Individual within the whole |
| Ego and Compromise | Practicing Non Ego |
| Tension and Relaxation | Non-tension |
| 2 schizophrenic pursuits: 'Self-interest and Desires' and 'Sacrifice and Martyrdom' | Understanding natural flow into divine flow |
| Defined by Fixed Contracts (Conservatives) vs Improvisational Contracts (Liberals) to manage human expectations | Defined by models of observations of the natural world towards fulfillment of human ecstacy (Dharmas) |
Current World Realities
[Document note: A hastily put-together collection of articles and facts that is usable as is as a starting point. This has potential to aggregate and improve if maintained over time. Add section for Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Japan, Taiwan - other cultural slaves of western "thought".
Disclaimer: Please note this blog doesnt endorse some views of presented authors/sources, but they present key facts and insights from the forefront of these issues.]
USA
a study of a potential trend setter exporting their "cultural values" to Rest
(if you are from S/E Asia or India you can skip this)
Personal Life Outcomes
Progeny in a Feminist culture
- 70 percent of criminals in America were raised by single mothers, thus divorce is responsible for most crime in America.
- 85 percent of divorces in America are INITIATED by women, thus women are responsible for the vast majority of divorces.
- There are reports on depression among the kids and inability to envision stable relationships for themselves. Very high divorce rates among offspring.
Woman in a Feminist culture
- 30 percent of American women take psychiatric drugs (figures do not include alcohol, drug abuse).
- 25 percent of women under the age of 30 have at least one STD.
http://www.womenagainstmen.com/media/feminism-is-a-hate-group.html
Summary: With over 85% divorces initiated by women, they are driving single family homes, where most fatherless criminals (70%) are nurtured.
Stages of Feminism
4 waves in US: 1920s(political)-1960s(institutional)-1990s(social)-2018(group-think)4x25yrs. 4 generations total. Last 3 generations of 'abusive/accusatory' styles of feminism, with the last 1 being ferociously and personally (often falsely) abusive.
Inside story from a sister of leading American feminist who started "Women's studies" courses in American Universities
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/240037/marxist-feminisms-ruined-lives-mallory-millett
Gender Equality Leaders in US
MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement | Cassie Jaye | TEDxMarin
The Boy Crisis: A Sobering look at the State of our Boys | Warren Farrell Ph.D. | TEDxMarin
Suffering in Silence: The Emotional Abuse of Men | Dr. Timothy Golden TEDxWallaWallaUniversity
De Chinchokver Rebbe Shlita2 years ago
+Lauren Hanson MGTOW is an acronym for the Men Going Their Own Way movement. There are currently several hundred thousand followers. It's a surprise that they were never given any media attention. The movement is mainly comprised of men who went through traumatic divorces, and who realized that the laws are simply too harsh on them for relationships to even be worth it. Feminism has taught women that it is okay for a woman to destroy a man, while a man must simply stand there and not retaliate. If a man does dare to reciprocate, he is deemed a misogynist, and a woman hater deserving of destruction in every way possible. To put it simply, men are scared of women. It may sound absurd, but reality is reality. You, as a woman probably couldn't give a ** about this, but maybe this book by a woman will enlighten you. "The Manipulated Man" by Esther Vilar.
wisdom worshipper3 years ago
There is a reason why misandry is becoming prevalent throughout the world, google this ( Gender Differences in Automatic In-Group Bias: Why Do Women Like Women More Than Men Like Men?) also watch this in youtube (How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales) it is from karen straughan. There is also a very good reason why the mgtow philosophy is spreading like a wildfire in the western hemisphere. Översätt
Suicide rates among indian men twice that of indian women due to marriage. Declines to normal levels after divorce or spousal death
-- 1 married indian man commits suicide, every 9 minutes. every 30 mins due to family issues.
According to latest data(2014) by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), Married men are twice as likely to commit suicide than married women. However, after divorce or in the case of the spouse's death, men's propensity to commit suicide falls sharply. In overall suicides too men die twice as much as women. Among reasons for suicides, family problems score the highest. They claim lives of over 21% of all suicide victims. It is also the biggest killer of men claiming over 18,000 lives in 2014. Illness as a reason follows closely leading to 18% of all suicides. Here too, no of men is twice that of women.
Close to 90,000 men committed suicide for various reasons in 2014 as against about 42,000 women. 60,000 married men committed suicide in 2014 as compared to 27,000 married women. (18,000 men to 9,900 women, due to family issues. 16,078 men to 7,663 women due to health). However, 1,400 widowers ended their lives compared to 1,300 widows. Similarly, around 550 divorced men committed suicide as compared to 410 divorced women.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Married-men-twice-as-likely-to-commit-suicide-than-married-women-Report/articleshow/48220552.cms
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2012-spring/individualism-collectivism/
https://paalaguttapalle.blogspot.com/2017/09/caste-as-social-capital-s-gurumurthy.html
Divorce rates increasing due to ignorace
This is an unusual trend in a country where the divorce rate was just 1 in 1,000 ten years ago, and is still a relatively low 13 per 1,000 - as compared to the US average of 500 per 1,000. While India has no central or even state-wise registry of divorce data, family court officials say the number of divorce applications has doubled and even tripled in cities such as Mumbai, Delhi, Bengaluru, Kolkata and Lucknow over the past five years.
Counsellors cite a range of reasons - the waning influence of the family and joint family; the growing psychological and financial independence of women; late marriages resulting in a greater reluctance to compromise or change set ways and lifestyles.
The greatest difference, however, is in the willingness to end a marriage that is not working, say some counsellors.
"These young couples come to me with a totally different attitude," says Mumbai-based psychotherapist and counsellor Pallavi Bhurkay. "Earlier, couples would come to me to fix the marriage. Now, I have young couples who have come just to convince their family or partner that a divorce is the right decision."
Earlier, issues such as dowry demands, property disputes and family arguments would lead to applications for divorce, adds a family court counsellor from Mumbai. "Now we see young couples who want to separate because they cannot agree on who will do the chores, or because they have realised that they no longer like each other. Most of these are young couples in the first or second year of marriage."
https://www.hindustantimes.com/sex-and-relationships/how-and-why-number-of-young-indian-couples-getting-divorced-has-risen-sharply/story-mEuaEoviW40d6slLZbGu6J.html
Divorce rates very high among offspring of divorcees
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2001.01038.x/abstract
Four times more women make false cases for every real case, to incriminate men and their birth families.
a) Total Crime Against Women Cases in INDIA................................. 18,94,285 b) Persons in custody/bail during the stage of trial in only 2013.........16,17,294 c) Persons convicted.......................................................................... 50,287 d) Persons acquitted (Cleared of all charges).................................... 1,91,605
https://data.gov.in/catalog/persons-arrested-and-their-disposal-police-and-court-under-crime-against-women
Domestic Violence against Men
Half the sexually abused children are boys and yet not a whisper
Hindu husband can divorce wife if she tries to separate him from aged parents
A comedic introduction to gynocentrism (allied topic to misandry)
Mridul Aggarwal2 years ago (edited)
That statement was pure bullshit. Feminists work day and night to fight for supremacy and against equality. Feminists want to turn all men into slaves of women. Feminist only fight for censorship and oppression of men.
Suffering in Silence: The Emotional Abuse of Men | Dr. Timothy Golden TEDxWallaWallaUniversity
De Chinchokver Rebbe Shlita2 years ago
+Lauren Hanson MGTOW is an acronym for the Men Going Their Own Way movement. There are currently several hundred thousand followers. It's a surprise that they were never given any media attention. The movement is mainly comprised of men who went through traumatic divorces, and who realized that the laws are simply too harsh on them for relationships to even be worth it. Feminism has taught women that it is okay for a woman to destroy a man, while a man must simply stand there and not retaliate. If a man does dare to reciprocate, he is deemed a misogynist, and a woman hater deserving of destruction in every way possible. To put it simply, men are scared of women. It may sound absurd, but reality is reality. You, as a woman probably couldn't give a ** about this, but maybe this book by a woman will enlighten you. "The Manipulated Man" by Esther Vilar.
There is a reason why misandry is becoming prevalent throughout the world, google this ( Gender Differences in Automatic In-Group Bias: Why Do Women Like Women More Than Men Like Men?) also watch this in youtube (How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales) it is from karen straughan. There is also a very good reason why the mgtow philosophy is spreading like a wildfire in the western hemisphere. Översätt
East Asian Societies
that have imported/imbibed American "cultural values"
India
The state of marriage in India
Suicide rates among indian men twice that of indian women due to marriage. Declines to normal levels after divorce or spousal death
-- 1 married indian man commits suicide, every 9 minutes. every 30 mins due to family issues.
According to latest data(2014) by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), Married men are twice as likely to commit suicide than married women. However, after divorce or in the case of the spouse's death, men's propensity to commit suicide falls sharply. In overall suicides too men die twice as much as women. Among reasons for suicides, family problems score the highest. They claim lives of over 21% of all suicide victims. It is also the biggest killer of men claiming over 18,000 lives in 2014. Illness as a reason follows closely leading to 18% of all suicides. Here too, no of men is twice that of women.
Close to 90,000 men committed suicide for various reasons in 2014 as against about 42,000 women. 60,000 married men committed suicide in 2014 as compared to 27,000 married women. (18,000 men to 9,900 women, due to family issues. 16,078 men to 7,663 women due to health). However, 1,400 widowers ended their lives compared to 1,300 widows. Similarly, around 550 divorced men committed suicide as compared to 410 divorced women.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Married-men-twice-as-likely-to-commit-suicide-than-married-women-Report/articleshow/48220552.cms
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2012-spring/individualism-collectivism/
https://paalaguttapalle.blogspot.com/2017/09/caste-as-social-capital-s-gurumurthy.html
Divorce rates increasing due to ignorace
This is an unusual trend in a country where the divorce rate was just 1 in 1,000 ten years ago, and is still a relatively low 13 per 1,000 - as compared to the US average of 500 per 1,000. While India has no central or even state-wise registry of divorce data, family court officials say the number of divorce applications has doubled and even tripled in cities such as Mumbai, Delhi, Bengaluru, Kolkata and Lucknow over the past five years.
Counsellors cite a range of reasons - the waning influence of the family and joint family; the growing psychological and financial independence of women; late marriages resulting in a greater reluctance to compromise or change set ways and lifestyles.
The greatest difference, however, is in the willingness to end a marriage that is not working, say some counsellors.
"These young couples come to me with a totally different attitude," says Mumbai-based psychotherapist and counsellor Pallavi Bhurkay. "Earlier, couples would come to me to fix the marriage. Now, I have young couples who have come just to convince their family or partner that a divorce is the right decision."
Earlier, issues such as dowry demands, property disputes and family arguments would lead to applications for divorce, adds a family court counsellor from Mumbai. "Now we see young couples who want to separate because they cannot agree on who will do the chores, or because they have realised that they no longer like each other. Most of these are young couples in the first or second year of marriage."
https://www.hindustantimes.com/sex-and-relationships/how-and-why-number-of-young-indian-couples-getting-divorced-has-risen-sharply/story-mEuaEoviW40d6slLZbGu6J.html
Divorce rates very high among offspring of divorcees
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2001.01038.x/abstract
Four times more women make false cases for every real case, to incriminate men and their birth families.
a) Total Crime Against Women Cases in INDIA................................. 18,94,285 b) Persons in custody/bail during the stage of trial in only 2013.........16,17,294 c) Persons convicted.......................................................................... 50,287 d) Persons acquitted (Cleared of all charges).................................... 1,91,605
https://data.gov.in/catalog/persons-arrested-and-their-disposal-police-and-court-under-crime-against-women
Real violence against men
Domestic Violence against Men
Half the sexually abused children are boys and yet not a whisper
Hindu husband can divorce wife if she tries to separate him from aged parents
A comedic introduction to gynocentrism (allied topic to misandry)
Feminism in India
Feminist Leaders in India
In response to ""Feminists works day and night for the equality, for the Gender Neutrality, everywhere in the world. Lets make their dream come true in 2016 by making 'Domestic Violence Act of India' Gender Neutral."
That statement was pure bullshit. Feminists work day and night to fight for supremacy and against equality. Feminists want to turn all men into slaves of women. Feminist only fight for censorship and oppression of men.
Feminists are the ones who pushed these stupid laws in the first place. Just ask them, they take pride in this.
Feminists are the ones who are pushing against gender neutral laws. For eg. listen to ranjana kumari or kavita krishnan.
Feminists are the ones who push even more of such laws. Look up IrBM, or listen to karuna rundy.
"Definition for feminism in dictionary is equality. We want special treatment for women. Not all feminists are like that. Men should not have the right to complain against crimes of women. Women should get special organisations, helplines, protection, reservation etc. all of which is specific to gender." --Every single feminist
For learning about feminism in short, take a look at the video "One word: Feminism" by Thorium. If you want details, try following warren farrel or karen straughan. If you want even more details, follow the feminist websites such as jezebel.
Gender Equality Leaders in India
Martyrs of Marraige - A ground-breaking documentary available on Netflix now
An internet list of unspoken Feminist privileges/gynocentrism in soceity from a female pov
1. From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.
2. If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working.
3. I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential” status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age.
4. Regardless of my mate value society has organized fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage.
5. I not only have the more valuable and sought after sexual identity, but I also have complete control over my reproductive choice and in many ways over the reproductive choice of the opposite sex.
6. At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy. A male could never relieve himself of this burden unless I allow him to.
7. I am granted all the rights of a democracy without any of the burdens of military service.
8. At age 18 I lose the protective status of the child but retain the protective status of the female. Boys at age 18 lose the protected status of the child and become targets if they fail to gain status after that point.
9. When I marry a man with status I can take his name and become whoever he has spent years becoming. I need not do anything special to be worthy of receiving the reputation he has built. However, if I wish to keep my own name I can do so. Should my husband feel the sting of this insult I can simply call him a sexist for it.
10. People will help me more when I’m in need and I will receive no social penalty or stigma for it.
11. When I’m on a date things will be paid for me.
12. When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage.
13. I can discriminate against the opposite sex ruthlessly without social penalty.
14. If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets.
15. If I commit a crime and am convicted I will get a sentencing “discount” because of my gender. If I am very pretty it will increase my discount.
16. If I am a partner in crime with a man I will likely be charged with lesser crimes even though I committed the same crimes even if I was the ringleader.
17. I have the option to be outraged if my husband asks me if my behavior is due to PMS and later on use PMS as a successful legal defense for murdering that same husband.
18. At age 18 I will not be forced to register for Selective Service and will not be penalized for failing to do so.
19. At a time of war I will never be drafted and ripped from my employment, home, and family and forced to become a military slave.
20. My feelings are more important than men’s lives. Every precaution will be made to protect me from harassment at work. However, males will make up nearly %100 of workplace fatalities.
21. My gender controls 80% of domestic spending. We get to spend our money if we have any and we get to spend men’s money.
22. The majority of luxury apparel is designed, marketed to, and consumed by women.
23. Seven times as much jewelry will be purchased by or for me than by or for men.
24. I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department.
25. My gender enjoys more government spending on health than males do.
26. My gender consumes the lioness’ share of entitlement programs while men contribute the lion’s share of taxes.
27. If I rape or molest a child I can expect lighter treatment in court and afterwards receive less social stigma. What’s more, should I become pregnant, I can sue my victim for child support when he finally turns 18.
28. When I divorce my husband I will be guaranteed custody of my children unless I am deemed to be unfit. Even if my husband is “Parent of the Year” 10 years running it is unlikely he will get custody over me even if I am a mediocre parent.
29. When I divorce I can use false accusations of domestic violence, sexual molestation of the children or abuse of the children to gain advantage during court proceedings. If I am found out to be a liar I can expect to get away with it.
30. If a man calls me a slut it will probably hurt his reputation more than it hurts mine, but at any rate the damage will be small and localized. However, if I call him a child molester or claim that he raped me I can destroy him completely and the damage may be nationwide.
31. If I fail at my career I can blame the male dominated society.
32. I may have the luxury of staying home and being a housewife but if my sister’s husband does the same thing I’m likely to call him a deadbeat loser and tell her to leave him.
33. If I “choose” to join the military; the best military occupations providing the most lucrative civilian training will be reserved for me. I will be kept away from the fighting as much as possible to the point that I will be thirty times less likely to be killed in a war zone than my male counterparts. I will be given equal pay for less risk. I will never have to consider the fact that by joining the military and getting a plumb assignment I automatically forced a male out of that position and into a combat role that may cost him his life.
34. If a male soldier injures himself before a deployment he can be arrested and court marshaled for it. If I deliberately get pregnant before a deployment or even during a deployment I will be reassigned and or taken out of a war zone and I will receive no penalty for it.
35. My gender watches more television in every hour of every day than any other group. This along with the fact that women control %80 of domestic spending means that most television shows and advertisement are designed to appeal to me.
36. I can wear masculine clothing if it pleases me however men cannot wear feminine clothing without social penalty.
37. Not only is there a wealth of clothing choices designed for me but it is likely that I will be able to afford or have them provided for me.
38. I can claim that a wage gap exists and that it is the fault of sexism while simultaneously seeking employment without considering income as a priority. I will probably choose my job based on satisfaction, flexibility of hours, and working conditions and then expect to make as much as the males working nights, out in the rain and cold or working overtime.
39. I can be bigoted or sexist against males without social penalty.
40. If I make a false claim of rape against a male in an act of revenge or in order to cover up my own scandalous behavior I may well succeed at both and he may spend years in prison. If I am found out it is unlikely I will be charged, convicted, or serve any time at all.
41. If I abuse my husband and physically assault him and the police arrive it is almost guaranteed he will go to jail.
42. If I am in an abusive relationship there are a multitude of social organizations to help me get away from him. There are few for men in the same position even though women initiate the majority of DV and even though men are hospitalized %30 of the time.
43. In the event of a natural disaster or other emergency that requires evacuation I can expect to be evacuated before males. This includes male doctors, humanitarians, politicians, captains of industry, billionaires, and religious leaders. I will receive no social penalty if all of those people died because I was evacuated first. However, should they manage to get evacuated before women and those women died they will all suffer a social penalty.
44. If someone is attacking a person on the street I have no obligation to assist them and I will receive no social penalty if I do nothing.
45. If someone is harming my children and I run away and ask someone else to help I will receive no social penalty for my cowardice.
46. I’m immune to cognitive dissonance.
47. I may denounce the concept of a dowry, however, I still expect a man to give me an engagement ring when he asks me to marry him.
48. I expect a man to ask me to marry me and suffer the potential risk of rejection.
49. If I lie it’s because I’m a victim of a male dominated society forced into difficult circumstances and not because I’m a bad person.
50. If my boyfriend sabotages a condom he can pay me child support for the next 20 years. If I secretly don’t take my birth control my boyfriend can pay me child support for the next 20 years.
51. If I’m uncomfortable exercising around men I can demand a female only gym be made for women. If any male only gyms exist I can demand membership under threat of lawsuit.
52. If my female only gym at the university decides to close early for safety reasons I can scream sexism and force them to keep it open as long as the main gym.
53. If I succeed at keeping the female gym open and I leave late at night and I don’t feel safe I can demand that the university spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for more lighting and police presence.
54. If after getting new lighting and police protection I decide I don’t want to go to the gym anymore well that’s just my prerogative.
55. I’m likely to believe that if a woman is intoxicated she is not capable of giving consent and if sex occurs it is rape. However, if her male partner is also intoxicated he is capable of consenting.
56. If a man is promoted over me at work I have a right to suspect sexism even though I also believe that under adverse circumstances men are more capable than women of making good decisions. (see #55)
57. I can cry and get my husband to do something for me that he might not have done otherwise.
58. I expect people (especially men) to be sensitive to my feelings.
59. I can deny a man’s feelings or disregard them or ridicule him for having them without social penalty.
60. If I lose my job it’s because of sexism or the economy. If a man loses his job it’s because he’s a loser.
61. If I go to a club or bar with my girlfriends and I look my sexy best I have a right to be perturbed when men approach me and hit on me in this public place.
62. Even though men die more from prostate cancer than women die from breast cancer I can expect that twice as much funding is given for breast cancer. The same will apply to any female specific disease or malady.
63. If for some reason I do not get custody of my children I will be expected to pay less child support than another man in my exact same position.
64. If I kidnap my children and I am eventually caught I can successfully defend myself by claiming I was protecting them from my husband–even if my children were given to him to protect them from me.
65. My gender makes up %53 of the voting population yet when I see more men in political office I will call that sexism.
66. If I am married with children and I want to stay home with the kids I’m likely to blame my husband for not making enough to allow me to do that.
67. I think it is my right to work and I am unconcerned if the influx of women into the workforce has reduced overall wages to the point that it’s hard to support a family on just one income, or affirmative action has kept men from being promoted even though they deserved it.
68. I can get student financial aid without signing up for Selective Service (the Draft).
69. I can get employment with a federal agency without signing up for Selective Service.
70. Restrooms for my gender will be cleaner and are more likely to have flowers or other decorations.
71. If I’m caring for a child restrooms for my gender will more likely have a changing table for my convenience.
72. People I’ve never met before are more likely to open doors for me.
73. People I’ve never met before are more likely to talk to me in public.
74. If I go to a bar I can expect that members of the opposite sex will purchase drinks for me.
75. Anytime I find an organization just for men I can denounce it as sexism.
76. I believe that women should have organizations just for women.
77. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he doesn’t call I have a right to think of him as an asshole.
78. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he calls me I have a right to blow him off or act like I don’t know him.
79. I believe I have a right to live in an orderly and safe society but I feel no obligation to risk my safety to secure or maintain that society.
80. I like it when bars and clubs have drinks specials just for women.
81. I think that organizations that offer any discounts or privileges just for men is a clear sign of sexism.
82. If I’m white I will live 6 years longer than white males and 14 years longer than black males.
83. If I’m encouraged to get medical care it’s because I owe it to myself.
84. When my husband is encouraged to get medical help it’s because he owes to to me and the kids.
85. If something bad happens to me or just one woman I believe it is an offense against all women.
86. I believe that if something bad happens to a man it’s because he’s a loser.
87. I think that alimony is fair when paid to a woman but not fair when paid by a woman.
88. I’m more likely to believe that women who commit crimes are sick and need treatment or understanding whereas men who commit crimes are evil and should be locked up forever.
89. I can criticize the opposite sex without social penalty, but woe be to the man who attempts to criticize me or other women.
90. I can throw a fit and act like a two year old to get what I want without damaging my mate value.
91. I have the luxury of not being the filter for natural selection.
92. I can sleep with my boss if I want and afterwards I can sue him for sexual harassment.
93. I can wear seductive clothing and perfume to attract a man at work but no one will accuse me of sexual harassment.
94. If I hear a story about Darfur and how men who leave the refugee camps to gather wood are hacked to death to prevent their wives from being raped I am likely to think that is proper but not likely to send money.
95. If I hear a story about Darfur and how women are leaving the refugee camps to gather wood are being raped I’m likely to be outraged. I’m also likely to wonder why these women’s husbands aren’t protecting them.
96. If I ever heard these stories about Darfur it is my privilege not to care or even consider that the reason the second story exists is because all the men in the first have already been killed.
97. It is my right to maintain the belief that men oppress women despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
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